Appeal to our Sensibilities

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Making Sense, by Michael Reagan

Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder was killed while serving in Iraq in 2006. His grieving father, Albert Snyder, did what too many military families have had to do over the past several years — bury his child. But this sad story takes a cruel and despicable turn.

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Cartoon by John Darkow – Columbia Daily Tribune (click to purchase)

You see, a group identified as the Westboro Baptist Church out of Topeka, Kan. had taken to demonstrating at military funerals in their attempt to attract attention to their anti-homosexual views. The group claims that the loss of life in overseas military operations is directly attributable to America’s refusal to universally condemn homosexuality. Taking it a disturbing step further, this group even carries signs that read “Thank God for Dead Soldiers” and, as reported by The Christian Science Monitor, the group has an online press release that concludes with the phrase “Thank God for IEDs” (Improvised Explosive Devices).

In the face of this shameful treatment of his son’s death, Mr. Snyder retaliated not with violence, but with legal system. He filed suit against the Westboro demonstrators and won a multi-million dollar judgment against them. Sadly, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals just recently reversed the lower court’s finding by asserting that the First Amendment rights of the demonstrators would be violated with a finding in favor of Mr. Snyder. This reversal also required Mr. Snyder to pay Westboro’s court fees in excess of $16,000 — an amount that he has stated he will not pay unless the Supreme Court of the United States orders him to do so.

With the Supreme Court recently agreeing to hear his appeal next term, Mr. Snyder will have his day in front of the highest court in the land.

Our First Amendment rights are critically important to ensuring that each of us is able to present our views in the public forum without government restriction or interference. Each day, thousands of Americans do just that, on matters ranging from new contracts for union workers to folks letting the government know of their position on national health care legislation.

But I do not believe that these rights are unlimited, without regard to our basic humanity. I do not believe that they allow free Americans to cross the bounds of decency while intruding on the privacy of fellow citizens. In short, I don’t believe that our Constitution affords disturbed protesters the right to interfere with a peaceful memorial service for a fallen Marine. I can only hope and pray that the Supreme Court will agree and rule in favor of Mr. Snyder.

But regardless of the High Court’s ruling, these demonstrations are not likely to stop whether they receive a favorable or unfavorable ruling.

After learning of this story, I asked myself what my readers could do to help. It appears that Bill O’Reilly of Fox News has already volunteered to pay the outstanding legal fees on behalf of Mr. Snyder, should he be ordered to do so. And for that I applaud Mr. O’Reilly. But there is more.

A group called Patriot Guard Riders (www.patriotguard.org) has joined together for a worthy cause. They are motorcycle riders from across America whose main mission is, if invited by the grieving families, to attend the funerals of our service men and women and provide an escort for the fallen military member and their family, so as to ensure that no protests or demonstrations can disrupt the services. These are men and women who simply recognized that groups such as Westboro were hurting families at a time when they were most vulnerable and grieving. I ask each of you to visit the Patriot Guard’s website and join their ranks. You need not own a motorcycle or even have ridden one in the past. Rather, they proudly state that their only prerequisite to membership is “respect.”

My hope is that someday we will not require Supreme Court rulings and Patriot Guard Riders to protect our fallen heroes when they return home. But right now we do, and so I appeal to the Court to recognize and respect the constitutional rights of grieving families, and I appeal to each of you to become a member of the Patriot Guard.

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Mike Reagan, the elder son of the late President Ronald Reagan, is spokesperson for The Reagan PAC (www.thereaganpac.com) and chairman and president of The Reagan Legacy Foundation (www.reaganlegacyfoundation.org). Look for Mike’s books and other information at www.Reagan.com. E-mail comments to [email protected].

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17 responses to “Appeal to our Sensibilities”

  1. Cantor Avatar
    Cantor

    I'll agree with Reagan on this one although I will admit, it's easy to make the right decision here in the face of such blatant bigotry and hate. Still… it was the right decision.

    This Westboro group also protests the funerals of gay people. It's a shame that Reagan can't get fired up about that.

  2. geoff Avatar

    "The group claims that the loss of life in overseas military operations is directly attributable to America’s refusal to universally condemn homosexuality." WTF?!?

  3. Cantor Avatar
    Cantor

    That's what religious fantatics do, Geoff, they make ridiculous claims in the name of their religion.

    What part of this surprises you?

  4. Cal Avatar
    Cal

    These cretins are the equivalent of Muslim jihadists. They have taken something that works for millions of people and distorted into something outlandish.

    While I loathe them with every fiber of my being I believe they must be given the right to speak freely as long as they obtain proper permits and stay at established limits. Matthew Snyder, like my own son, died fighting to defend the very rights of sick, twisted people like the members of the Westboro Baptist Church. They didn't show up at my son's memorial and we had the Patriot Guard riders there for which our daughter-in-law and all of us were grateful. But had they done so I would have viewed them as nothing more than pathetic people looking for something to make them feel good about themselves. For some, hate is the only thing they can find to fill up what's missing deep inside.

    I was gratified to hear Bill O'Reilly say he would pay Mr. Snyder's $16,500 in legal bills and a website has been established to fund their bid to take this case to the Supreme Court. I'm not sure they have much of a legal case but there certainly is a moral aspect to it. But I would be the last one to say we should advocate turning a blind eye to the law in order to create justice for a grieving family. I am all too familiar with that grief but having spent my life defending freedom and both of my children doing the same with one paying the ultimate sacrifice, I still can't ask for special consideration for this fine family. If they can win on the merits of the case, I'll be happy for them. As I understand it, however, they don't seem to have a strong case speaking strictly from a legal point of view.

    I do wish them well and that they win if winning is based on the law and not emotion.

  5. Jonathan Colb Avatar
    Jonathan Colb

    Cal, it might take some creative lawyering, to be sure, but there's usually a way to prevent conduct like that of the Westboro Baptist Church without breaking the letter of the law or offending its spirit. No one argues that freedom of speech is absolute. To use the obvious examples, you can't yell "fire!" in a crowded movie theater or make bomb threats without legal repercussions. Most zoning laws prohibit homeowners from painting big, lurid swastikas on the outside of their houses.

    If the Snyders prevail in court, and it sounds like most of us hope they do, I'm guessing (and I'm no legal scholar either, as you can probably guess) that it will probably be on the basis of the minutia of zoning laws, similar to the question of neo-Nazis marching through Jewish neighborhoods or the Ku Klux Klan marching through black areas. Either that, or it will deal with the mostly abstract concept of "fighting words", which I believe is in Black's Law Dictionary, or words or conduct (ie., "speech") which is so inherently inflammatory and contrary to the normal dictates of civilised society that its target is within his or her rights to respond violently against the perpetrator. And admittedly that's a slippery slope, but sometimes a necessary one to go on.

    If the Church prevails in court, they've lost regardless, because they've hardly scored a public-relations coup with their antics, have they?

  6. Stug Avatar
    Stug

    The Westboro bigots have been mounting offensively disruptive protests for years. Their actions and attitudes are to be condemned now as they always have been in the past. What is more telling is that Mike never complained about them when they were disrupting gay-rights parades or the funerals of AIDS victims. Why wasn't he taking a stand on their behalf as well, do they, as human beings and somebody's son or daughter somehow deserve less?

    I agree 100% with Mike's sentiments in this column, and I hope that Mr. Snyder is able to win his court case. I look forward to reading Mike's column condemning the Westboro folks after they disrupt another gay pride event, but I don't think I'll hold my breath.

  7. SeaChris Avatar
    SeaChris

    Finally!

    The Southern baptist churches have been a force in GOP politics since the late 70's and it's good to read prominent voices in conservatism taking some of these churches to task for it's extreme and offensive actions.

    I think all Americans with decency and common-sense know better than to heckle mourners at a funeral.

  8. Jack Sprat Avatar
    Jack Sprat

    Cal

    "For some, hate is the only thing they can find to fill up what’s missing deep inside."

    With all due respect, it's not hate, it's ignorance, they have no understanding of the book they read, or they would be shaking in their shoes for doing what they are doing. The prohibitions to what they are doing are profoundly repeated through out scripture, old and new. Most religious intolerance stems from the same ignorance and unwillingness to be open to real understanding, bigotry.

    God doesn’t hate gays, he hates sin, He says "Love your enemies and them that spitefully use you", isn't just happy talk, it's a requirement. They have even targeted the wrong people to make any legitimate statement, they’re as myopic as the posts I see here, neither did I see any out rage when the “transgendered-gays” invaded a catholic mass in San Franco disrupting a “private” service at what is one of the holiest parts of the service for a person of faith, perhaps especially catholic.

  9. Cal Avatar
    Cal

    Southern Baptists? Westboro is at best a "Bizarro" form of Christianity complete with the cracks in the comic character's skin. Trying to include them in ANY mainstream denomination is nothing but a cheap swipe at Christianity in general which we read here all the time. I won't bother to Google it but if they are members of the Southern Baptist Convention, I'd appreciate seeing the link, SeaChris.

    Jonathan. I don't support them in any way, shape, or form. However, I've listened to discussion on the legal merits of the case and why the appellate court overturned the lower court's decision. It is precisely because of the technicalities of "distance limits" and late filings that the ruling was overturned and the Snyders assessed court costs. I'm in complete agreement with some (very limited) restrictions on free speech. But I think America needs to see the worst kind of free speech to appreciate how precious that right is. I was livid over allowing the press to cover and photograph our returning fallen heroes but not so much at these idiots. They guys don't bother me nearly as much. Well, as a dad, I'd like to rip their heads off and $hit down their necks but as an American, they must be permitted to speak their vile hate.

    You see, I don't believe in "hate speech." Trying to divine the thoughts of others in the commission of a crime or making some crimes worse than others precisely because of those divined thoughts is not justice. It is social justice and those terms are, to me, oxymoronic. Good Americans on all sides will continue to disagree and that's one of the things that makes our country great.

    Jack. Your points on selective outrage are exactly right. Only _some_ hate seems to be of concern to many people. A corollary is also true. Many expect everyone to accept and embrace, not just tolerate, what they do and those who don't are branded "bigots" and "hate mongers." Sorry, if you're a guy in a dress and heels walking around, I'm gonna laugh. It isn't that I'm hateful it's just that you look like a friggin' idiot. It doesn't mean I'm trying to stop you from expressing yourself, but don't expect me not to laugh and shake my head. You look ridiculous…

  10. Jonathan Colb Avatar
    Jonathan Colb

    Cal, this is completely off topic, but if you were here in Bangkok you'd probably spend a lot of time laughing because this city, for some reason, is absolutely saturated with cross-dressers, transgender/transsexual types and the like. They're called "Katoeys", and they're taking over! They're free to do that to themselves, and by the same token, you're free to "take the piss out of them", as my many British colleagues would put it. That's just the way it works, and that's the way it should be. Free or not, there are always consequences to what you do or say. This topic came up last year with the whole Rush Limbaugh football-team ownership debate, if you remember.

    Don't get me wrong, it's cool that these guys don't get beaten up or harassed as they might in most other cities of the world, but I don't find them funny at all. In fact, when I see one of them, I just see a man (or, increasingly, a young teenage boy) who must be in a lot of spiritual pain.

  11. geoff Avatar
    geoff

    "Westboro is at best a “Bizarro” form of Christianity." Sort of what we always thought of Jim & Tammy Fae, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggert (Swaggart? Swaggered?!?), Pat Robertson, Falwell, Haggard, Catholic child-molesting priests, the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jim Jones,, the Branch Dravidians, etc.

    A partial list:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_convicted_re

  12. geoff Avatar
    geoff

    Jonathan Colb: as far as I understand it, Cal's revulsion regarding same-sex contact in public suggests that "freedom," for him, means freedom from having to see others exercising theirs.

  13. Jonathan Colb Avatar
    Jonathan Colb

    Geoff: in much of Asia, the basic rule for gays and straights alike is that you don't show physical affection in public. You're not usually going to see couples making out or anything like that on the train or in the park. Which seems fair enough, if it is in fact the expectation for everybody.

    Oddly, though, you'll sometimes see people of the same gender walking in public holding hands. Especially in South Korea. Evidently, this is not seen as homosexual conduct.

    Just out of curiosity, why do you care so much about Cal's opinions? Have you two met in person before? I would pose the same question to Cal…

  14. Cal Avatar
    Cal

    Jonathan. I only threw that out as an outrageous example. I've said repeatedly I don't care what any two consenting adults do in private. I have no religious or moral proscription against any form of consensual behavior. Just don't ask me to call it "marriage" or pay for sex change operations with taxpayer money. And I don't care at all how anyone dresses. I've been to Thailand and the Philippines and I've seen a few of these young transsexual/katoeys who look exactly like women. The younger they get on hormones the more convincing they are. In contrast, a 40 or 50 year-old man who just "learned" he's really been a woman doesn't have much of a chance even with a ton of cosmetic surgery and a bathtub full of hormones.

    My "laughter" isn't for these folks who are truly torn apart inside by what's been termed "gender dysphoria." In fact, I wouldn't really laugh at all. I'd feel a sense of pity for them. My point is that while we should expect _tolerance_ we have no reasonable expectation of _acceptance_ when we cross (pun intended) into this kind of territory. That demand for total acceptance and even respect is, imho, an unreasonable expectation. But then, I'm just a narrow-minded conservative bigot, sexist, homophobe, hate monger, wingnut, asshat teabagger who's bitter about everything!

    Now I'm left wondering why I spent so much time on "lady boys." Uh, oh, could be some sort of latent desire I didn't know existed. Jonathan, if you see me in a drag show in San Francisco (or Bangkok) try not to laugh at the big dude with the lipstick on his teeth, the feather boa and the 80s hair tripping over his high heels. It could damage my fragile self esteem! Just offer to buy me drinkee and I'll promise to "luv u longtime, GI."

  15. Jonathan Colb Avatar
    Jonathan Colb

    "I’m just a narrow-minded conservative bigot, sexist, homophobe, hate monger, wingnut, asshat teabagger who’s bitter about everything!"

    And if those are your redeeming qualities, I'd hate to hear about your moral flaws!

    I think the expression you're looking for is "live and let live". Fair enough. But at the same time, yeah, some of those guys are pretty bizarre. Some of them are very convincing, too, but their walk and that voice always give them away. By contrast, others are hideously ugly. And some of them are extremely, visibly angry as well. It takes all types.

    I actually had a prostitute in a bar near Soi Cowboy say to me one time "me so horny". I think she she was taking the piss. So to speak. Ciao!

  16. Cantor Avatar
    Cantor

    Jonathan Colb: as far as I understand it, Cal’s revulsion regarding same-sex contact in public suggests that “freedom,” for him, means freedom from having to see others exercising theirs.

    Yup… That pretty much sums things up nicely!

  17. Cal Avatar
    Cal

    Cantor, It's good to see you're consistent. Jonathan Colb and I were having a pleasant exchange about a topic and you had to jump in and address your "hate speech" to him for some level of faux support on something you don't understand.

    I know you don't have the intellectual ability to defend yourself so I "get it" when you use another poster for cover, but aren't you just a little bit embarrassed when you make statements like the one you just made? At least you were somehow smart enough to preface your ridiculous comment with "as far as I understand it." That helped limit the self-inflicted damage this time. The problem is you never do seem to understand it.

    I don't care what consenting adults do in private or in public. But I find a man and a woman "tonguing" each other in public as inappropriate as two men or two women. There's a time and place for everything and the place for that's in private. Hand holding? I don't give a rip. A hug? Fine and dandy. Just keep the inside stuff inside where it belongs.

    But thanks for taking the time to put your astounding level of stupid on display–again–for all to see. You're simply amazing. But you are indeed consistent…

    My apologies Jonathan. Kagle kidz. Yeah, those were the "good ole' days" for me. Young, single. Going down Magsaisai Street in Olangapo City when martial law was in effect. ANY and every guy would get approached by single girls, pairs of girls, and several girls just looking for a place to stay. All you had to do was pay for your room and buy them breakfast in the morning. They were genuinely grateful and of course, showed it. I'll take my own advice and leave the obvious alone without stating the obvious.

    I will say I never had the unfortunate surprise of learning one of them had "more than I bargained for" (much to my own relief but I don't think that was an issue nearly 35-40 years ago.) I'm sure I'm on the verge of drawing the anger of some of our female readers (I apologize if this was offensive) so I'm not "going there" anymore after this follow up. Cheers.

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